STANLEY RENSCH: Yes sir, he could, he could. I mean, according to the tradition, if he refuses, if he did not want us to proceed, then I do not think that we could have had the support of the people to complete these questionnaires.

: Now, why don’t we wade a bit returning to the latest questionnaires. Did you concern the newest family members, with the surveys, due to the fact helpful tips, not merely since a guide, virtually, matter by the concern, concerning your losses that they had sustained?

STANLEY RENSCH: Yes sir. I spoke with all the members of the defendants, the names mentioned in the questioners, I spoke with them personally, in more than one occasion.

: Did you checklist its answers to the questions, because the people interviewees as you may know from the signatures commonly literate?

STANLEY RENSCH: We recorded the answers. We spoke with the members of the families, with the dependents, we spoke in Saramakan language and we did that in the presence of the leaders of the Village, the Captain of the Village, and we did it also in all the cases, we did it, in the presence of other people who are able to understand and translate Saramakan language.

SR

: We can see about affidavits there was indeed a couple of witnesses and this the new affidavits was basically notarized, would be the fact best?

: Which were witnesses and your affidavits, the fresh new bound statements were notarized, is the fact proper? Was indeed notarized.

: You have mentioned in addition to, that the Captain of one’s Village inside the for every instance are introduce. Are you willing to share with new Court who’s new Head from brand new Community?

STANLEY RENSCH: The Captain of the Village is really the leader of the Village. He has the responsibility to govern the Village, to settle whatever problem there is in the Village. To provide also counseling to whatever problems there might be with the people in the Villages. So he’s the one. One has to approach by entering a Village, to ask for his permission, and he’s the one to give the support. If the Grandman says alright with me, you can go ahead, we could transfer that information to the Captain of the Village, and he will be supportive to proceed with work in that Village. So in both of the Villages where we had to go after the meeting with the Grandman, we met with the Captains first and they granted us permission to continue, after we informed them about the position of the Grandman.

STANLEY RENSCH: We do that, first of all, if you enter the Village by the authority of the Village, someone who knows everybody in the Village who can point out, not only know the biggercity people of the Village, but know the problems happening, know the problems in that Village that is one entering, secondly, we have been working along the lines of the Administration, the family books, as we have them in Suriname, many people in the interior, they do have a book of the family in which the names of the children, the names of possible husbands are registered. So we approach the members, the dependents, via the leaders of the Village, and we approach them furthermore, we identify them also by using these family books of the dependents.

CLAUDIO GROSSMAN

STANLEY RENSCH: Then, that means that we know, we are aware of the fact that he belongs to a certain, he is the child, the son of a certain woman, then what we need to do, what we did in some specific case in the past, that we tried to find to locate these people in the Administration of the Government in Paramaribo. Whenever necessary we locate the person in the Administration of the Government and then try therefore, to establish, that this person belong to that woman, as it just been, is a child of that woman, so that we are sure that we are dealing with the son of that woman, from that Village.